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it was a strange bomb shell in washington today. a little bit of news that came from an unexpected source. bob woodward got his hands on an audio recording of the top commanding general in afghanistan meeting off the record with a fox news analyst. the meeting took place last spring. it was general david petraeus who was at the time commander of all u.s. forces in the war in afghanistan. and on the tape, fox news analyst says that she was asked by her boss, by the chairman of fox news to pass along some very specific advice for general petraeus. >> if you're offered chairman, take it. if you're offered anything else, don't take it. resign in six months and run for president. okay? and i know you're not running for president, but at some point when you go to new york next, you may want to just chat with roger. i just say what i have suggested and that we've discussed is next time you go to new york you're going to stop by and see him? >> yeah. i'd be happy. i haven't seen him in awhile. he's a brilliant guy. >> he's simply brilliant.
it was a strange bomb shell in washington today. a little bit of news that came from an unexpected source. bob woodward got his hands on an audio recording of the top commanding general in afghanistan meeting off the record with a fox news analyst. the meeting took place last spring. it was general david petraeus who was at the time commander of all u.s. forces in the war in afghanistan. and on the tape, fox news analyst says that she was asked by her boss, by the chairman of fox news to pass...
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be rushing to a conclusion to say somehow kurds have won or are winning this if anybody you know in washington you think of the situation with the kurds i mean in historical perspective and they're doing pretty well considering what's been done to them since the end of the first world war well. i pretty much agree with the germans through the situation with what they were set. it looks like you know the spring basically create some sort of our war it where kurdish people can take advantage of it but then. we have to look at each in an individual case you know kurds in syria kurds in iraq kurds in turkey a totally different story. but there are significant differences between these groups there are linguistic differences there are cultural differences. and. there are economic differences but they all have been interests because already selected for you oppressed haven't they and that's what brings them together in their identity well that that may be the case when you look at from outside but i'm not sure to what extent kurdish people rally around that concept all together so and i think i thin
be rushing to a conclusion to say somehow kurds have won or are winning this if anybody you know in washington you think of the situation with the kurds i mean in historical perspective and they're doing pretty well considering what's been done to them since the end of the first world war well. i pretty much agree with the germans through the situation with what they were set. it looks like you know the spring basically create some sort of our war it where kurdish people can take advantage of...
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ok and we're trying to go back to you in washington it seems to me that kurds are turning into you know a privileged people in western media and western government because they really would like to see a kurdish state because iran's involved israel's involved the problem is is turkey . well yes and as we were speaking just before the break i was explaining that there is a positive outcome here actually for turkey i believe and and that is but if we keep in mind that the underlying. element that animates this what we call the arab awakening is a desire for democratic aspirations more than it is for some relative advantage of one ethnic or sectarian group over another well i mean i had come i guess where i mean because i haven't seen a whole lot of democracy in all of this when it comes to the west ok it's all nice ideas ok but a lot of people are being killed in the name of democracy and i think it's a bit hypocritical of western powers be keep pushing that agenda i'm sorry but i think that's true. well peter obviously people can disagree about that and about who has an agenda for the mo
ok and we're trying to go back to you in washington it seems to me that kurds are turning into you know a privileged people in western media and western government because they really would like to see a kurdish state because iran's involved israel's involved the problem is is turkey . well yes and as we were speaking just before the break i was explaining that there is a positive outcome here actually for turkey i believe and and that is but if we keep in mind that the underlying. element that...
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to cross-talk the kurdish issue i'm joined by my guests in washington edward joseph he is an international conflict a democracy expert and we have bill again he is the executive director of the rethink institute all right gentlemen cross talk rules in fact that means you can jump in anytime you want and what if i go to you first i mean as i said in the introduction as the arabs fight among themselves particularly in syria it's the kurds that are winning. hello peter i i don't know if i would. go that far to say kurds are winning i think that it's true that the kurds see an opportunity here and. consequently turkey. which is the country most concerned about kurdish nationalism having being host to the largest population of kurds in the world is cry wary of this situation but in particular i think when we talk about potential developments the most immediate case of course is syria and i don't think the situation on the ground there would suggest that there's a clear winner certainly not for a kurdish aspirations at the moment the kurds of course would like autonomy in syria and. probably the
to cross-talk the kurdish issue i'm joined by my guests in washington edward joseph he is an international conflict a democracy expert and we have bill again he is the executive director of the rethink institute all right gentlemen cross talk rules in fact that means you can jump in anytime you want and what if i go to you first i mean as i said in the introduction as the arabs fight among themselves particularly in syria it's the kurds that are winning. hello peter i i don't know if i would....
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does anybody in washington think about spending and help the taxpayer? spending is going to get done and it is going to include spending. the question when those details come out is will the president face the problem on the left of trying to herd cats here. rather than focused on the priority. they are going to have to be part of this deal. so how obama manages the left is something that we are going to have to pay attention to as well. >> let's continue this discussion. here now is karen finney. we have david webb. let me go to you, guy benson. it sounded to me like president obama talking about tax rates. >> is this dead or still alive? >> it is still alive. and it is ugly. but the piece that you mentioned. setting aside some of the substance here. there is a new poll out today that shows the public unchanged. it has been that way for weeks now. they had a proposal and i think it is middle ground and they put it in a letter and leaked it to the press. i think you heard what you heard from the president all along. >> i have to say, i agree with guy. pa
does anybody in washington think about spending and help the taxpayer? spending is going to get done and it is going to include spending. the question when those details come out is will the president face the problem on the left of trying to herd cats here. rather than focused on the priority. they are going to have to be part of this deal. so how obama manages the left is something that we are going to have to pay attention to as well. >> let's continue this discussion. here now is...
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look at the "washington post" poll. i think you brought this up earlier in the show who to blame if this doesn't work out. the congressional gop gets 53% as opposed to the president. >> it's almost 2-1. >> you know, give us a sense as to why, first of all, it goes there. i think we know. >> look at our primary process. >> okay. so look at the last year. look at the last two years. and the president has made this attempt on taxes. isn't that fair? >> sure that's where he starts. you grew up with parents, you have a starting point. and for somebody -- >> putting the house up for sale. but what i think is different for the president on this one is that he feels he's just won an election on this and that he will give anything but this. and that's going to make it tough. from '73 to '91. >> richard nixon, though, won 49 states the year before. richard nixon has a large mandate i had better blindly follow. that's what some democrats forgot, that if you're a congressman or a congresswoman and you won an election with 75% of yo
look at the "washington post" poll. i think you brought this up earlier in the show who to blame if this doesn't work out. the congressional gop gets 53% as opposed to the president. >> it's almost 2-1. >> you know, give us a sense as to why, first of all, it goes there. i think we know. >> look at our primary process. >> okay. so look at the last year. look at the last two years. and the president has made this attempt on taxes. isn't that fair? >> sure...
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good afternoon welcome to capital account i'm lauren lyster here in washington d.c. these are your headlines for tuesday december fourth two thousand and twelve the g.o.p. has made a counteroffer to the white house on the fiscal cliff and the endless conversation continues today with president obama giving his first post-election one on one interview here's a snippet i think reassured the man when will the two of you sit down in or around the you know i don't think that the issue right now that's to do with sitting in a room. there was plenty of that throughout the interview but do these twenty four seven deficit debates do you want to undermine perceptions of america and the dollars position in the international monetary system then they do to address the nation's growing debt real discuss uncle sam exorbitant privilege despite the budget woes and assess the competitive currency landscape plus the dollar fell against other currencies to a six week low this morning according to reuters which cited concerns over a fiscal cliff deal but what does the so-called dollar i
good afternoon welcome to capital account i'm lauren lyster here in washington d.c. these are your headlines for tuesday december fourth two thousand and twelve the g.o.p. has made a counteroffer to the white house on the fiscal cliff and the endless conversation continues today with president obama giving his first post-election one on one interview here's a snippet i think reassured the man when will the two of you sit down in or around the you know i don't think that the issue right now...
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led invasion into iraq washington is pressuring a new government of the very same country to help the leader of a different one as americans continue supporting syria's opposition in part by police in iran iraq for its all to march in lockstep with orders has created something of a middle east triangle the white house may not be able to navigate bring up or not artsy. people in britain face being branded terrorists of paedophiles have they refused to allow the government to pry into their internet activities at least that's according to the u.k.'s home secretary after she said anyone opposed to the communications data bill fell into one of those groups he's pointed out the start. the way it would work if pasta is that the police and security services would have unbridled access to your internet data by obliging mobile phone service providers and internet providers to store that internet history your data for a year now the government say that it's a necessary move in order to safeguard the public and to fight crime that's being organized through the internet increasingly such as that
led invasion into iraq washington is pressuring a new government of the very same country to help the leader of a different one as americans continue supporting syria's opposition in part by police in iran iraq for its all to march in lockstep with orders has created something of a middle east triangle the white house may not be able to navigate bring up or not artsy. people in britain face being branded terrorists of paedophiles have they refused to allow the government to pry into their...
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officials have complained that baghdad is not doing enough to cooperate with washington's demands since september iraq has only managed to allegedly inspect two iranian planes baghdad does not have an air force and grounding planes is proving too costly as they must be refueled after each check recently iraq made it clear that it is not willing to march to the beat of america's drum in an interview with the new york times iraq's minister of transportation said quote we are an independent country and our stance is clear we will search whichever plane. we want whenever we want we will not take orders i think they're expecting one else to take our most countries doing it in a sanctions treatment of the american government so the. shah of iran is don't feel the same water why should the. government iraq is. even before the war started with the sanctions and the killing of children by work and medicine. through. other countries including in syria nearly one decade after saddam hussein was ousted by the us led invasion into iraq washington is pressuring a new government of the very same count
officials have complained that baghdad is not doing enough to cooperate with washington's demands since september iraq has only managed to allegedly inspect two iranian planes baghdad does not have an air force and grounding planes is proving too costly as they must be refueled after each check recently iraq made it clear that it is not willing to march to the beat of america's drum in an interview with the new york times iraq's minister of transportation said quote we are an independent...
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led invasion into iraq washington is pressuring a new government of the very same country to help move the leader of a different one as america continue supporting syria's opposition in part by policing iran iraq for its all to march in lockstep with borders has created something of a middle east trying the white house may not be able to navigate up or not artsy. turkish troops and helicopters a pounded the kurdish area near the border with syria killing thirteen suspected militants the crisis in syria is being seen as a chance for kurdish aspirations for independence and statehood and whether the turks are actually shooting themselves in the foot by supporting the syrian uprising is the subject up for debate in the latest cross-talk it's coming up in the next hour well up more news from me right. the legacy no one should be proud of. scrap metal littering pristine arctic landscape building stilton over their foundation pipes being black smoke over the snow covered peaks the traces of the soviet industrial activity on the pittsburgh an archipelago don't make a pretty picture the guidin
led invasion into iraq washington is pressuring a new government of the very same country to help move the leader of a different one as america continue supporting syria's opposition in part by policing iran iraq for its all to march in lockstep with borders has created something of a middle east trying the white house may not be able to navigate up or not artsy. turkish troops and helicopters a pounded the kurdish area near the border with syria killing thirteen suspected militants the crisis...
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led invasion into iraq washington are sharing a new cover of the very same country to help the leader of a different one as americans continue supporting syria's opposition in part by police in iran iraq for its all to march in lockstep with borders has pretty something of a middle east triangle the white house may not be able to navigate bring up or not artsy new york. turkish troops and helicopters have pounded to the kurdish area near the border with syria killing thirteen suspected militants across as sincere is being seen as a chance for could his aspirations for statehood how and whether that will happen is a subject up for debate in the latest episode of cross talk coming up later today. probably to go on for feels that he has given a lot to kurdish people any feel that kurds must be quite happy for to have kids go to right now and they should stop asking for any further rights or they should stop complaining about their mistreatment so people can romanticize about a larger kurdistan which includes course from you know turkey and syria and iraq and iran and so on so and people
led invasion into iraq washington are sharing a new cover of the very same country to help the leader of a different one as americans continue supporting syria's opposition in part by police in iran iraq for its all to march in lockstep with borders has pretty something of a middle east triangle the white house may not be able to navigate bring up or not artsy new york. turkish troops and helicopters have pounded to the kurdish area near the border with syria killing thirteen suspected...
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led invasion into iraq washington is a new cover of the very same country to help move the leader of a different as americans continue supporting syria's opposition in part by police in iran iraq for its all to march in lockstep with orders has created something of a middle east trying the white house may not be able to navigate. not artsy. turkish troops and helicopters of pounded the kurdish area near the border with syria killing thirteen suspected militants the crisis in syria is being seen as a chance for kurdish aspirations for independence and statehood and whether the turks are actually shooting themselves in the foot by supporting the syrian uprising is a subject up for debate in the latest edition of cross talk that's coming up later today. well china's new government is ready for a full make over promising to revamp its image for decadence and crack down on corruption so it's out with huge entourages and banquets and the red carpets will be rolled up and stored the aim is to save money and prevent any more of the recent high level political scandals dr chan gang from the n
led invasion into iraq washington is a new cover of the very same country to help move the leader of a different as americans continue supporting syria's opposition in part by police in iran iraq for its all to march in lockstep with orders has created something of a middle east trying the white house may not be able to navigate. not artsy. turkish troops and helicopters of pounded the kurdish area near the border with syria killing thirteen suspected militants the crisis in syria is being seen...
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well it's wednesday december fifth four pm in washington d.c. i'm christine you're watching r t. starting off this hour yesterday in a vote of ninety eight zero the senate passed the national defense authorization act of two thousand and thirteen after five days of debate and hundreds of amendments considered many which in the senate were proud of the progress made and of the bipartisan support the bill had something rather rare these days on capitol hill the bill now now heads to a house senate conference committee where it will be discussed and differences between the house version of the bill and the senate version will be hammered out however what exactly is written in those six hundred eighty eight pages well some of it might surprise you archies was won't explains the national defense authorization act or the n.c.a.a. as it's commonly known as stablish is the budget for the u.s. military but the massive bill also has many other provisions with major implications for your freedoms and last night the senate unanimously passed the defense spending bill and a ninety eight zero
well it's wednesday december fifth four pm in washington d.c. i'm christine you're watching r t. starting off this hour yesterday in a vote of ninety eight zero the senate passed the national defense authorization act of two thousand and thirteen after five days of debate and hundreds of amendments considered many which in the senate were proud of the progress made and of the bipartisan support the bill had something rather rare these days on capitol hill the bill now now heads to a house...
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led invasion into iraq washington is pressuring a new governor of the very same country to help move the leader of a different one as americans continue supporting syria's opposition in part by police in iran iraq for its all to march in lock step with borders has pretty the something of a middle east lying all the white house may not be able to navigate bring up or not artsy me or. britain is facing at least five more years of a sturdy the country's finance minister says there's no miracle cure for the country's economy the highly anticipated orton statement by george osborne brought little relief for a public already angered by government cuts not the sort of first reports now from london where everyone now madly picking their way through either but i don't think it is and while we're there a lot of thinking is one thing that was very very clear and that's that the u.k. is set to face even more authority now what those figures say this was that the u.k. economy is going to shrink by not point one percent by the end of twenty twelve now it sounds like a small amount but of course no
led invasion into iraq washington is pressuring a new governor of the very same country to help move the leader of a different one as americans continue supporting syria's opposition in part by police in iran iraq for its all to march in lock step with borders has pretty the something of a middle east lying all the white house may not be able to navigate bring up or not artsy me or. britain is facing at least five more years of a sturdy the country's finance minister says there's no miracle...
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and others, our chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell, is in washington. here we go again, the american public not anxious to hear about any u.s. military involvement anywhere else on the planet, using terms like weapons of mass destruction, chemical weapons, what do we do? now you have the criminal weapons going back over a decade, but the stock pile explains why the president and hillary clinton warned bashar al-assad forcefully this week not to use the weapons. a warning that secretary clinton repeated at nato again today. >> our concerns that are increasingly desperate assad regime might turn to chemical weapons. or might lose control of them to one of the many groups that are now operating within syria. >> reporter: now officials say they believe that those warnings did work so far. they are concerned, though, about the rising influential extremist groups. so the state department is preparing to decision nature one group because of the close ties to al-qaeda in iraq. still, secretary clinton announced they will take a big step, recognizing the main op
and others, our chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell, is in washington. here we go again, the american public not anxious to hear about any u.s. military involvement anywhere else on the planet, using terms like weapons of mass destruction, chemical weapons, what do we do? now you have the criminal weapons going back over a decade, but the stock pile explains why the president and hillary clinton warned bashar al-assad forcefully this week not to use the weapons. a warning that...
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but fix the problem so if you're asking for somebody to give more of their money into washington, at least be able to tell them that we are going to manage down the debt. that's what we're about here. which is why the focus on spending and how we have to ratchet down the spending in this town. and that's where we've heard no specifics or willingness on the part of the president to engage in discussions about specifics on spending. as far as the math is concerned, again, it was a very different president in the summer of 2011 when he said $1.2 trillion in additional revenues could be accomplished without hiking tax rates. that's what he said. so, again, all of a sudden that math doesn't work but it worked for 1.2 before. regardless, we sort of understand now, at least this round, where everyone is on taxes. let's get to the problem and maybe then we can resolve the taxes question. i yield back. mr. hoyer: well, we have a fundamental disagreement because the gentleman continues to want to focus on spending. i think that's right that we focus on spending. but, again, debt is not caused
but fix the problem so if you're asking for somebody to give more of their money into washington, at least be able to tell them that we are going to manage down the debt. that's what we're about here. which is why the focus on spending and how we have to ratchet down the spending in this town. and that's where we've heard no specifics or willingness on the part of the president to engage in discussions about specifics on spending. as far as the math is concerned, again, it was a very different...
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presidents bush and obama as secretary of defense, and doing some speaking but staying as far from washington, d.c. as i can. >> rose: when you look at writing a book, i mean, how hard is that for you to take the time anand think of all of the events and make sure that you get it right as you recollect it? >> first i have given myself a little out at the beginning by saying this is a purely personal reminiscence of what i experienced and what i saw, i am not trying to write the defensive history and others will have a different perspective on things, but it was -- we were at war every day of the four and a half years i was in office, and as i write in the book it wasn't just the wars in iraq and afghanistan, it was daily wars with the congress, with other agencies, with the white house, and also i would say with my own building, with the pentagon. >> rose: fighting over what within the pentagon? >> trying to make the first priority of the pentagon to be successful in the wars we were already in, the pentagon bureaucracy is structured to plan for war, not to wage war, and so getting badly need
presidents bush and obama as secretary of defense, and doing some speaking but staying as far from washington, d.c. as i can. >> rose: when you look at writing a book, i mean, how hard is that for you to take the time anand think of all of the events and make sure that you get it right as you recollect it? >> first i have given myself a little out at the beginning by saying this is a purely personal reminiscence of what i experienced and what i saw, i am not trying to write the...
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to see groups supporting jeremy hammond i was at a bradley manning meeting yesterday or lecture in washington that was also well attended by julian assange i think has a lot of support so i think there is a fight back but you know and then the president obama passes a bill supposedly protecting whistleblowers i mean what utter hypocrisy is that when he has prosecuted as you said more whistleblowers and all other presidents put together and he's trying to hammer someone like jeremy hammer and really quickly how is jeremy even charged with anything i mean if he's pled not guilty there's no it's kind of like the bradley manning thing where you just sit in a cell without actually being charged how is it possible that the judge has actually put these charges on him without you know laying them out or giving them any sort of pretrial where there is an indictment against jeremy hammond and a number of other people so there is an indictment but nothing's been proven and the fact that the judge denied bail in this situation is someone who's been sitting in jail for eight months already and because the
to see groups supporting jeremy hammond i was at a bradley manning meeting yesterday or lecture in washington that was also well attended by julian assange i think has a lot of support so i think there is a fight back but you know and then the president obama passes a bill supposedly protecting whistleblowers i mean what utter hypocrisy is that when he has prosecuted as you said more whistleblowers and all other presidents put together and he's trying to hammer someone like jeremy hammer and...
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when rights abusers absolutely article in the washington post today that one fourth of the people in saudi arabia live in poverty so you maginnis a parasitical royal family of thousands of princes and princelings who live in the lap of luxury and still with all that oil money they can't have a decent standard of living for four or five million the question now is when the revolution hits those places and also terrible human rights abuses i think it might relieve the pressure on syria if saudi arabia and qatar were kept busy at home with their own problems which they should pay attention to rather than meddling in syria unfortunately out of time there's so much more to talk about thank you so much for coming thank you giving a little bit insight on the convoluted situation. right guys as a syrian conflict continues above all else it's important remember that the ones who suffer the most are innocent civilians muslim and christian have suffered through almost three years of war and now it's time to stop politicizing the conflict because the syrian people shouldn't be pawns in this impe
when rights abusers absolutely article in the washington post today that one fourth of the people in saudi arabia live in poverty so you maginnis a parasitical royal family of thousands of princes and princelings who live in the lap of luxury and still with all that oil money they can't have a decent standard of living for four or five million the question now is when the revolution hits those places and also terrible human rights abuses i think it might relieve the pressure on syria if saudi...
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washington has trouble with things that work. it has to always go back to reducing providers, increasing the cost to recipients rather than allowing experimentation that occurs in the states like the governor of tennessee did to become the drivers of better policy. how we ship the paradigm here in washington, we actually reward creative ideas like the health care clabtive is the essence on how we get an agreement. moving to an outcomes the value system from a utilization system is what we want to do. question is how do we do in a system that is straitjacketed by rules and old-time philosophy. that is where the transition has to occur. >> your name was mentioned before, let us get your perspective on this. >> i welcome the focus on national health expenditures because i do think that should be the goal of what we're doing now and in the leng-term. it is a challenge for competitiveness. that exers face such high cost in a challenge when you are trying to hire. so the center has focused on national health expenditures because we fee
washington has trouble with things that work. it has to always go back to reducing providers, increasing the cost to recipients rather than allowing experimentation that occurs in the states like the governor of tennessee did to become the drivers of better policy. how we ship the paradigm here in washington, we actually reward creative ideas like the health care clabtive is the essence on how we get an agreement. moving to an outcomes the value system from a utilization system is what we want...
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and over in washington right now. we have that northwest wind. i told you, it was going to change direction from the south here. that warm air. front came through. light rain on the lower eastern shore this morning. cleared out quickly. got bright, sunshiny, nice december day. but unlike the last few days, it was a radical change. here's the front from maine into the georgia area and alabama. mississippi, some rain down there. the front moved through the area down there this morning, early on. and takes the rain and clouds with it. bright sunshine. the only problem is this front is going to kind of stall out, we think, down in the south. eventually may play into our weather. kind of wading back and forth. we have a risk of more clouds coming back friday. i think most of the rain will miss us. but over the weekend, into next week. we'll have a couple of chances of maybe some shower activity, down to 49 in boston. in the 30s to our north and west. so chilly air up there. but even winnipeg at 28 is not all that bad. denver at almost 70 now. watch ne
and over in washington right now. we have that northwest wind. i told you, it was going to change direction from the south here. that warm air. front came through. light rain on the lower eastern shore this morning. cleared out quickly. got bright, sunshiny, nice december day. but unlike the last few days, it was a radical change. here's the front from maine into the georgia area and alabama. mississippi, some rain down there. the front moved through the area down there this morning, early on....
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"washington journal" is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. now come in a discussion of how the military and national security might be a affected by spending cuts at the first of the year. part of the so-called fiscal cliff. former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mike mike mullen, was joined at how services committee. this is a less than an hour. >> good afternoon. thank you for coming. my name is peter peterson. i would like to give you a review of why we are supporting this project today. starting about 30 years ago, after studying the profound demographic trends, on the vast and unfunded promise we have made. i have decided was not unsustainable, but a primary threat to the future. speaking of unsustainable, in the nixon white house in which i served, the chairman of the council, if something is unsustainable, he says it continues to stop. or if you don't like that, if your worst eyes, i suggest that you does not dismount. in lieu of that retirement, i decided to set up the foundation to increase awareness of long-term debts and get
"washington journal" is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. now come in a discussion of how the military and national security might be a affected by spending cuts at the first of the year. part of the so-called fiscal cliff. former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mike mike mullen, was joined at how services committee. this is a less than an hour. >> good afternoon. thank you for coming. my name is peter peterson. i would like to give you a review of why we are...
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and the more fair we are here in washington, you make more, you pay more. you make less you pay less. and i'm one of those that likes two deductions. one for charitable giving and the other for the mortgage interest dedux. we can negotiate over numbers. that's not a problem. we can compromise, we can reach an agreement, a compromise over numbers. but let's don't compromise on principle that is so basic, simply says, if you make more you pay more. it's an easy concept. you make more you pay more. you make less you pay less. that's fair. and for heaven's sake, let's do this and let's take that obamacare burden off the working poor in america that are going to get socked with that tax. and we were told for so long, if we don't do something, there will be 30 million, maybe 20 million, 30 million people in america who won't have insurance. and then we get to the bottom of it, we find out, well, now we're going to have lots of people pay lots more taxes and we're still -- oh, and we're gutting medicare in obamacare, we're gutting it $716 billion, so the seniors w
and the more fair we are here in washington, you make more, you pay more. you make less you pay less. and i'm one of those that likes two deductions. one for charitable giving and the other for the mortgage interest dedux. we can negotiate over numbers. that's not a problem. we can compromise, we can reach an agreement, a compromise over numbers. but let's don't compromise on principle that is so basic, simply says, if you make more you pay more. it's an easy concept. you make more you pay...